I am very amazed by Gopalan's gutsiness. Challenging like this.
Interesting!
It would be even more interesting to see JBJ, Gopalan, Chee and lawyer have a fair debate with 'dem' on live tv where everyone's eyes are watching all the proceedings where everyone in the courtroom is judged by the people.
This may probably never happen for some reason.
Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:I am very amazed by Gopalan's gutsiness. Challenging like this.
Interesting!
It would be even more interesting to see JBJ, Gopalan, Chee and lawyer have a fair debate on live tv where everyone's eyes are watching all the proceedings where everyone in the courtroom is judged by the people.
This may probably never happen for some reason.
it will never happen on tv, remember tv is under control. tv, media are their propaganda tool.
Originally posted by Pwins9:
it will never happen on tv, remember tv is under control. tv, media are their propaganda tool.
how can say like this?
there is no official report that they are like dat wat.
Originally posted by sebosebo:im pretty ashamed of my country and i felt cheated to be in a place where our courts don't uphold justice. however, i don't need a foreigner to tell me that. ur in another country where not much of these shenanigans happens, good for u, u have slightly better luck. don't have to rub it in and remind us of our shame.
the sad thing is that you do need someone to remind you.
As you have stated earlier since you HAVE ALREADY know the condition of the courts, so what have you done? you have done nothing and theres a kind soul who risk his dear life to make such a statement, instead of respecting this guy, you have made such a statement in reply?
so are you a coward? he has risked his life to fight for YOUR rights, and REMEMBER since as you have said HES a american citizen, obviously, whatever fuck happens to you, AS A CURRENT singaporean is obviously none of his fucking business, but he still loves the people, its disgusting to dismiss people WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGHT for your rights?
Why not you just give up all your rights as a singapore citizen, since you dun even respect your rights?
Originally posted by snowfoxx:the sad thing is that you do need someone to remind you.
As you have stated earlier since you HAVE ALREADY know the condition of the courts, so what have you done? you have done nothing and theres a kind soul who risk his dear life to make such a statement, instead of respecting this guy, you have made such a statement in reply?
so are you a coward? he has risked his life to fight for YOUR rights, and REMEMBER since as you have said HES a american citizen, obviously, whatever fuck happens to you, AS A CURRENT singaporean is obviously none of his fucking business, but he still loves the people, its disgusting to dismiss people WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGHT for your rights?
Why not you just give up all your rights as a singapore citizen, since you dun even respect your rights?
thats the dumbest thing to do, to bite the hand that feeds you, thus its PERFECTLY REASONABLE FOR THEM TO TREAT YOU IN THE CURRENT WAY.
Analogy: You are getting whacked on the balls by me, but another person comes along and wants to fight for your rights, you dismissed him, saying FUCK OFF, YOU ARE A JOKE.
In this case, you are obviously demostrating your hobby of getting whacked on the balls, and you bet, the frequency of Me whacking your two tortured balls will increase exponentially, JUST LIKE GST, loving every moment dun ya? even a lackey also got some little bit of pride left.
REMEMBER THIS, THEY CAN KILL YOU, BUT THEY CAN NEVER TAKE AWAY YOUR PRIDE
however if you are the poor fellow who is involved in this thread
http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/319126
then allow me to take back my words
Originally posted by snowfoxx:the sad thing is that you do need someone to remind you.
As you have stated earlier since you HAVE ALREADY know the condition of the courts, so what have you done? you have done nothing and theres a kind soul who risk his dear life to make such a statement, instead of respecting this guy, you have made such a statement in reply?
so are you a coward? he has risked his life to fight for YOUR rights, and REMEMBER since as you have said HES a american citizen, obviously, whatever fuck happens to you, AS A CURRENT singaporean is obviously none of his fucking business, but he still loves the people, its disgusting to dismiss people WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGHT for your rights?
Why not you just give up all your rights as a singapore citizen, since you dun even respect your rights?
Frankly, if it was anybody else, why would the person being an American citizen be bothered about the plight of Singaporeans.
I guess most Singaporeans prefer to live in monarchy instead of democracy, where rights are subjugated, my assumption is 66.6% less the Royals of Singaporeans are closet masochist devoid of intelligence. Li Ao was right in saying that Singaporeans are the dumbest compared to Hong Kong, China and Taiwan, probably a result of our heritage, most of the immigrants that relocated to Singapore from China are peasants. Therefore it's the peasants' mentality to be ruled and trampled over, it's also in their mentality that it's the mandate of heaven that the holy trinity rule over them.
wow, you do know your history boy, hmmm respect, not many singaporean know li ao,
to refresh on what li ao master has said,
AND DUN FLAME ME ok, Not i say one, LI AO SAY ONE
In the olden days, only the poorest people and the most uneducated people in china come to singapore to try to make a living, as singapore is deemed a terrible place to live in, due to the weather and the olden generations of staying in their homelands, NO MATTER what due to them wanting to die in their homelands, you can ask your grandparents the first generations, if you wanted to know more about the history then..... during that time life was very harsh in singapore.......... thus that was the basis of li ao used to support his argument......
However in the case of hongkong, during the british takeover, the richest PEOPLE in china generally moved to HK, to avoid their money from falling into communist hands, thus that explains why the people there are considered the richest and the people there are showed traits of their roots of business making....
In the case of taiwan, all the political Elites moved there, after the fight of KMT and the communist during the rise of mao, that explains the spirit of the current taiwanese people liking to protest and stuff, fight for rights....etc etc if you like to look it in that way. These people are very politically aware........
Those remaining in china are the middle class average joes, and started to show their true potentials in the current years, after better rule....
anyway, this statement from our friend maurizio13 has said reminds me of the statement the our own LKY has said to the then LATE Deng Xiao Ping, when he visited singapore in the 1980s.....
DENG: Lee, singapore has progressed so much, you have done well
LKY: i am sure in the future china will progress more than us, as we are made up of the worst from your country. As long as you take the right steps.... (LKY is a strong believer of eugenics) ( i believe he has the thought of using this to show off his 'leadership' )
DENG:....
BUT I BELIEVE that humans are highly adaptable and we should really look at ourselves carefully, why these outsiders are looking at us in this way?
are we really like what li ao has said? if not why do our actions prove otherwise?
why do a majority of us, shows traits of labourers, like our forefathers, very obedient and fearful of everything? Ok i know that there are still people like Poh Ah Pak etc etc,
i am glad to say we still have hope..... :)
But i am still expectin to have some people to flame this statement by li ao,
I think that we should look into what he said, rather than rejecting it before even thinking about it.
when you criticize someone, you obviously hope that they can learn and improve, which is a act of helping them, you dun criticize someone you would want them to be condemned and never to improve right?
actions speaks louder than words, and before you should even speak, think what have you done, to disagree with what he said. If you are the ones happily taking the handouts during GE and thought with your short sightedness, rather than think carefully with your head, i suggest you save that tiny bit of pride left and remain silent. Btw i donated everything that they given me.
Originally posted by snowfoxx:actions speaks louder than words, and before you should even speak, think what have you done, to disagree with what he said. If you are the ones happily taking the handouts during GE and thought with your short sightedness, rather than think carefully with your head, i suggest you save that tiny bit of pride left and remain silent. Btw i donated everything that they given me.
Dude,
Handouts or progress package is not Gahment's charity to her people hor.
The "handouts" are meant to boost GDP/GNP stats ok ?
So that in the next election they can claim success in economic performance due to their wonderful leadership.
CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PAP, THEY REALLY LOVE THE PEOPLE, YEAH. OUR COST OF LIViNG IS SO LOW. I LOVE PAP, I EVEN GOT A SHIRT WITH THEIR PRINTED LOGO.
i am glad you know jojo, very good thrumbs up, think deepeerrr. only to boast GNP only? no other things to boost? before GE?
VOTE FOR PAP
i am lovin it
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Frankly, if it was anybody else, why would the person being an American citizen be bothered about the plight of Singaporeans.I guess most Singaporeans prefer to live in monarchy instead of democracy, where rights are subjugated, my assumption is 66.6% less the Royals of Singaporeans are closet masochist devoid of intelligence. Li Ao was right in saying that Singaporeans are the dumbest compared to Hong Kong, China and Taiwan, probably a result of our heritage, most of the immigrants that relocated to Singapore from China are peasants. Therefore it's the peasants' mentality to be ruled and trampled over, it's also in their mentality that it's the mandate of heaven that the holy trinity rule over them.
more on this 'american'
Gopalan Nair called to Bar of England and Wales, Barrister, Inner Temple, London; called to Singapore Bar, Advocate and Solicitor, practiced law in Singapore called to California Bar, Attorney at Law, practiced 6 years in California, former opposition politician, Worker's Party Singapore, specializing in US Immigration and Naturalization law, committed to competence, integrity, honesty and honor, practicing in Fremont, California USA.
Born Singapore educated Singapore, England and USA, University of Hull, England, LLB (honors)
Originally posted by snowfoxx:more on this 'american'
Gopalan Nair called to Bar of England and Wales, Barrister, Inner Temple, London; called to Singapore Bar, Advocate and Solicitor, practiced law in Singapore called to California Bar, Attorney at Law, practiced 6 years in California, former opposition politician, Worker's Party Singapore, specializing in US Immigration and Naturalization law, committed to competence, integrity, honesty and honor, practicing in Fremont, California USA.
Born Singapore educated Singapore, England and USA, University of Hull, England, LLB (honors)
These are the type of academics the regime fear the most, that's why they try to discredit them by arresting them under ISA or other Tax crimes.
if got popular demand i will post the pictures of my shirt, no joking, i got it
no dun, i am really the supporter of pap, i vote pap everytime. i love pap papa
i am loving it
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Chee asks whether the only people who have a good opinion of him are his state owned and controlled Singapore press, whereas everyone else in Singapore as well as the entire list of respectable foreign organizations and countries including the entire European Union consider him as a thug and small time street bully? Question disallowed and the father shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.
Thugs ahahhahahahhahahhahahaha
I'm a victim of grave abuses from people in power in Singapore with access to telepathic person(s). They have friends here too. All abuses are to convince people I'm mentally ill to cover their grave evil. Telepathy is not a far off fiction. It's a fact. I've realized I'm fighting a 12 year old.
would LKY want my adress too? My name is Renaldi an ex-NTU student that he tried to kill and defamed crazy afterwards.
Small time street bully eh?
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am Gopalan Nair. Today is May 31, 2008 at 10.40am Singapore time. I am at present in Singapore at Broadway Hotel, Room 708, 195 Serangoon Road, Singapore, 218067. The hotel telephone number is is 62924661. My local SingTel telephone number is 83764236.
In my last blog post, I had narrated the shameful spectacle of Lee Kuan Yew and his Prime Minister son abusing the legal system for their political ends through their lawyer Davinder Singh and a compliant judge, both compliant and suppliant to Lee Kuan Yew's demands to abuse the law, Belinda Ang, to punish his political opponents Dr. Chee Soon Juan and Chee Siok Chin.
I repeat the threat that Lee Kuan Yew had made on day two of the show trial during the last 3 days in the High Court. When asked by Dr. Chee whether he will sue those who write on the Internet defamations against him, I mean defamations in the Singaporean sense, his definitive unequivocal answer was that he will sue them.
There is no doubt in the Singaporean sense, I have defamed him and his
Prime Minister son, not only in my last blog post but in almost all my
blog posts since my blog's inception in December 2006.
My
posts have attracted great popular interest throughout Singapore and
has been repeatedly and widely re-posted throughout the island in other
blogs and political forums. A wide section and spectrum of Singaporeans
have read them and interest in them increases daily. And as Lee Kuan Yew has himself said with both bravado and gusto, a lie has to be nailed because otherwise through dissemination people who matter, Singapore citizens, will begin to take it seriously.
Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, you have called Dr. Chee a liar, a cheat, a scoundrel, a criminal and various other abusive epithets. Let me tell Mr. Lee Kuan Yew that these words that you have uttered apply to you and your son, not to Dr. Chee Soon Juan.
Not only in my mind but in the minds of countless Singaporeans, Lee Kuan Yew and his Prime Minister son are men so weak that the only way they
can stay in power is through fear and intimidation of their citizens
through the abuse of legal process and other shameful means.
Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, look here. I am now within your jurisdiction and that of your
corrupt police and your corrupt judiciary who will do anything you want
of them, however criminal and illegal.
What are you going to do about it?
Gopalan Nair
Broadway Hotel
Singapore
May 31, 2008
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
This former Singaporean,who claimed he seeked asylum in US,
(political asylum??),seem wanted to jump quene in Supreme Court.
But he was asked by police to go back of quene.
''The following transpired during the last 3 days in court. The judge Belinda Ang was throughout prostituting herself during the entire proceedings, by being nothing more than an employee of Mr. Lee Kuan Yew and his son and carrying out their orders. There was murder, the rule of law being the repeated victim.''
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2008/05/singapore-judge-belinda-angs-kangaroo.html
can anyone help make a police report,complaining him comtempt of court?
This is too much to a female Judge.Too much.
can anyone help make a police report,complaining him comtempt of court?
Why can't you do it yourself if you are so concerned?
Ah... Must be another person with the 'waiting for others to do' mentality.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Lee Kuan Yew: If bloggers who defame me identify themselves, I will sue them!
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am Gopalan Nair. Today is May 31, 2008 at 10.40am Singapore time. I am at present in Singapore at Broadway Hotel, Room 708, 195 Serangoon Road, Singapore, 218067. The hotel telephone number is is 62924661. My local SingTel telephone number is 83764236.
In my last blog post, I had narrated the shameful spectacle of Lee Kuan Yew and his Prime Minister son abusing the legal system for their political ends through their lawyer Davinder Singh and a compliant judge, both compliant and suppliant to Lee Kuan Yew's demands to abuse the law, Belinda Ang, to punish his political opponents Dr. Chee Soon Juan and Chee Siok Chin.
I repeat the threat that Lee Kuan Yew had made on day two of the show trial during the last 3 days in the High Court. When asked by Dr. Chee whether he will sue those who write on the Internet defamations against him, I mean defamations in the Singaporean sense, his definitive unequivocal answer was that he will sue them. There is no doubt in the Singaporean sense, I have defamed him and his Prime Minister son, not only in my last blog post but in almost all my blog posts since my blog's inception in December 2006.
My posts have attracted great popular interest throughout Singapore and has been repeatedly and widely re-posted throughout the island in other blogs and political forums. A wide section and spectrum of Singaporeans have read them and interest in them increases daily. And as Lee Kuan Yew has himself said with both bravado and gusto, a lie has to be nailed because otherwise through dissemination people who matter, Singapore citizens, will begin to take it seriously.
Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, you have called Dr. Chee a liar, a cheat, a scoundrel, a criminal and various other abusive epithets. Let me tell Mr. Lee Kuan Yew that these words that you have uttered apply to you and your son, not to Dr. Chee Soon Juan.
Not only in my mind but in the minds of countless Singaporeans, Lee Kuan Yew and his Prime Minister son are men so weak that the only way they can stay in power is through fear and intimidation of their citizens through the abuse of legal process and other shameful means.
Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, look here. I am now within your jurisdiction and that of your corrupt police and your corrupt judiciary who will do anything you want of them, however criminal and illegal.
What are you going to do about it?
Gopalan Nair
Broadway Hotel
Singapore
May 31, 2008
Tell you what, Poh, why don't you mail this to MFA or the PM's office? This site is probably of low significance to the ministers, whom i doubt read sites such as these or even their officers.
Better yet, tell the american citizen to go to the speakers corner and shout it out, in hong lim, if he truly have the guts, instead of hiding here where there is low probability of any government officer here. You would only be flattering yourself, just like that crap foreigner, to think there is here.
Tell you what, Poh, why don't you mail this to MFA or the PM's office?
I think report to police is a better idea.
Care to do the honours point_blank?
Gopalan Nair is defaming our beloved Lee Kuan Yew.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:I think report to police is a better idea.
Care to do the honours point_blank?
Why should I, over a claim by a small fry like him? And let our police force, who have better things to do such as catch Mas, to entertain him? He's only a guest but a crap foreigner who does not understand hospitality, on our shores. Bo liao!