Gopalan Nair in Singapore:Judge Belinda Ang's Kangaroo Court
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another problem is ,he is us citizen,he blog some inappropriate content,but can sg law regulate him?
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Originally posted by rokkie:
dude ,but defamation is like spread rumour of someone,if u only say f-word to someone ,this cannot really be accused of defamation ,right?He blogs really ,in my point of views,defaming few top shots here.
Like i mentioned above for DPM and new Law Minister,
some racists remarks ...
Nair claimed Lees and Judge Ang some wrong doings. He admitted:
There is no doubt in the Singaporean sense, I have defamed him and his Prime Minister son, not only in my last blog post but in almost all my blog posts since my blog's inception in December 2006.
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so if another us citizen,blog the same thing in US ,could sg law regulate him?If so a lot of forumer will be arrested.
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Originally posted by rokkie:
so if another us citizen,blog the same thing in US ,could sg law regulate him?If so a lot of forumer will be arrested.
if he blog the same thing in US, he can be sue under US courts, which is a different set of laws altogether, but whether he can gets punished or not depend on the sentences(verdict) there. -
Originally posted by angel7030:
if he blog the same thing in US, he can be sue under US courts, which is a different set of laws altogether, but whether he can gets punished or not depend on the sentences(verdict) there.the SG laws is blind.
Laws apply to everyone.disregard to his or her citizenship.
Remember the Aussie citizen,of Vietnamese origin,drug trafficker and the Africian
drug traifficers.All are sentenced as usual.
Do u believe CSJ that SG just deal with people from Africa?
WITHOUT FEAR AND FAVOUR
If u are too young,find out how this red dot confront the mighty
US President over a teenger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay
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Originally posted by angel7030:
if he blog the same thing in US, he can be sue under US courts, which is a different set of laws altogether, but whether he can gets punished or not depend on the sentences(verdict) there.
U mean singapore can sue him under US courts?Apparantly US will be no interest to sue him ,without SG intervention -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
the SG laws is blind.
Laws apply to everyone.disregard to his or her citizenship.
Remember the Aussie citizen,of Vietnamese origin,drug trafficker and the Africian
drug traifficers.All are sentenced as usual.
Do u believe CSJ that SG just deal with people from Africa?
WITHOUT FEAR AND FAVOUR
If u are too young,find out how this red dot confront the mighty
US President over a teenger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay
Ths issue here is, if his blog deflamated PAP in USA, that mean he is in USA, not caught in Singapore. The Singapore govt can sue n seek US attorney General to issue an arrest on him, but the court proceeding will be base on US state of laws. If committed in Singapore, of course use singapore laws lah, you never take aeroplane meh, when it land in singapore, it sure to announce that drug trafficking is a capital offence in SINGAPORE.
Laws are set by poeples, and peoples are born to make mistakes, so laws is definitely not perfect, that is why there is constant change of laws, and PAP are good in that, i am sure you agreed.
And it must be blind otherwise if you give sentence such as death sentence, how can you give with eyes open, cos laws knows no human feeling. Understand.
And if you look at the balancing weights on both sides, if can never be balance indicating, the laws can never be fair, cos all of us have different opinons and idealogies, the laws may sound good to one but not fair to others. But the laws stand, for without laws, where got civil society??
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Ths issue here is, if his blog deflamated PAP in USA, that mean he is in USA, not caught in Singapore. The Singapore govt can sue n seek US attorney General to issue an arrest on him, but the court proceeding will be base on US state of laws. If committed in Singapore, of course use singapore laws lah, you never take aeroplane meh, when it land in singapore, it sure to announce that drug trafficking is a capital offence in SINGAPORE.
Laws are set by poeples, and peoples are born to make mistakes, so laws is definitely not perfect, that is why there is constant change of laws, and PAP are good in that, i am sure you agreed.
And it must be blind otherwise if you give sentence such as death sentence, how can you give with eyes open, cos laws knows no human feeling. Understand.
And if you look at the balancing weights on both sides, if can never be balance indicating, the laws can never be fair, cos all of us have different opinons and idealogies, the laws may sound good to one but not fair to others. But the laws stand, for without laws, where got civil society??
law cannot be absolute fair,but could be fair enough ,and accepted by the citizen,law never be the same ,but should be according to the benefit of majority of the ppl.If under US law ,i think the problem is easy,Because freedom of speech is always strenthened by US government.
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Originally posted by rokkie:
law cannot be absolute fair,but could be fair enough ,and accepted by the citizen,law never be the same ,but should be according to the benefit of majority of the ppl.If under US law ,i think the problem is easy,Because freedom of speech is always strenthened by US government.
That is why, people like francis seow is in US lecturing and saying bad about PAP here, if the Singapore dare to take him on US soil, i think PAP will be badly beaten due to freedom of speech and jury system. -
oh.Our PhD follows the instruction of this US lawyer:
If Dr. Chee Soon Juan and his friends are deliberately going to defy these laws, and if the police are going to arrest him, try him in the Subordinate Court for 2 months, levy a small fine which he will refuse to pay, go to jail for a week; come out and do it all over gain. You see it is this government that is losing its respect, its time and money; Dr. Chee loses nothing. Instead he gains international respect and admiration as a freedom fighter. And if a few can join him and with a few more as time goes on; you will have another Intramuros Manila Filipinos who ousted the dictator Marcos.
Moreover, Lee being an octogenarian or whatever name he may have, he will die soon. That too must give an added impetus for the movement for change.
The good news. Singaporeans are very suitable for democracy. Over the years they have become a civil people. A law abiding people. A gentle people. They are not like Pakistanis or the Afghans who are out to kill. Singaporeans will not kill anyone. Such people are best suited to democracy. And for making them a gentle people we can thank Lee Kuan Yew for that. But having thanked him, we should ask him to step aside. Right now.
So my dear Dr. Chee. Please do something. Talking about electoral reforms within 4 walls are good but not enough. What is needed is physical action.Tuesday, February 5, 2008
Letter to the SDP
by Gopalan Nair
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OMG!!He cheated u here and teased so many lawyers in SG!
It seem 2008 is a good year to settle all these allegations.
Let us search the truths in court---SG court--
and cc to the State Bar of California and invites Bar's rep to witness
the hearing,at their cost,of course.
A>He failed to tell you has get a actionable compliant from
the State Bar of California!!
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=181423
Actions Affecting Eligibility to Practice Law
Effective Date Description Case Number Resulting Status Disciplinary and Related Actions 3/19/2003 Private reproval, public disclosure 01-C-4261 B.He teased SG five Senior Counsels
Tuesday, January 8, 2008
The Singapore Legal Profession. An odd place where dishonesty is rewarded and integrity punished!
''If Mr. Hri Kumar has practiced law, it has been for an evil purpose. His career consists nothing more than willingly permitting himself to be used as an instrument by Lee Kuan Yew to destroy his political opponents. This is shameful work. Disgraceful work. Work that he does because Lee Kuan Yew pays very well....
The others honored with him, Dr. Jeffrey Dan Pinsler, an academic, SunderashMenon, Thio Shen Yi, Lee Eng Beng and Cavinder Bull fare no better in integrity. There is a saying, it is equally damning of a man who does nothing and remains silent when evil is perpetrated before his eyes. He stands no better than the perpetrator...
I am a member of the State Bar of California in good standing(lion note:pl read above.He cheated u here.) and in active practice. I have here made a deliberate and intentional charge of dishonesty against these 6 lawyers. Deliberately making a false accusation against another member of the Bar is actionable not only in Singapore but also here in California. The code of ethics of the State Bar of California forbids a lawyer from doing so. I stand by what I have said and am prepared to defend myself in the event of proceedings against me by these shaameful men. Furthermore Mr. Hri Kumar has vast experience in defamation of character cases. Libel in Singapore is libel here too.''
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CSJ mislead people that Gopalan Nair is just a innocent
ordinary blogger. http://www.yoursdp.org/
He never tell u that ,as Nair admits in 2 famous blogs
sent in SG soil challenging LKY,Nair posted blogs
defaming Lees in almost all 300 blogs in 18 months :
''I have defamed him and his Prime Minister son, not only in my last blog post but in almost all my blog posts since my blog's inception in December 2006.''
The learned Nair was a SG and US lawyer for some 25 years experience.
So,he certanily is not a blogger next door.
up to 2005
from 2005
Why i need to expose his blogs
He painted SG as rubbish and her people as prisoners.
If we dunt tell him it is not the case,we are chickens.
In his blogs,he kicked the butts of 7 Senior Counsel and DPM,
a former law Professor of the new Law Minister .
He dared come to SG and kicked the butt of LKY,twice.
How brave he is!!
So,now it is the time for him to revise the rules of freedom
of speech.
SG already prepared to answer questions and concern
from all around the world
Dunt waste time write to so and so.
Very few Americans will pity this 58 years old lawyers
to interfere SG domestic affairs and insult SG leaders,at SG soil.
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Why i need to expose his blogs
He painted SG as rubbish and her people as prisoners.
If we dunt tell him it is not the case,we are chickens.
I believe it is you who give the impression that Singapore is rubbish and her people are unable to demostrate critical thinking of any sort by constantly making rubbish posts to smear australia and other nations as well as creating CLONES to talk to yourself when you failed to convince anyone of so.
You are the one who is making us look bad.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
I believe it is you who give the impression that Singapore is rubbish and her people are unable to demostrate critical thinking of any sort by constantly making rubbish posts to smear australia and other nations as well as creating CLONES to talk to yourself when you failed to convince anyone of so.
You are the one who is making us look bad.
No la... not as bad as Gazelle, or rather, Gollum.
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our big size Gopalan Nair ,wearing blue slippers shown above,
walked out from SG Sub Court at 11.15 am on today 05 jun 2006.
According to news avaiable this morning,he would face more
charge under Sedition Act.
His Lawyer wrote on Wed evening :
Sometime after 640pm and near 7pm this evening(lion note:04 jun 20008), i receive a call from Gopalan Nair. He was calling from the police station. He called to inform me that he would be produced in Court tomorrow morning to face a fresh charge. At that point, my heart sank - another charge. And this one is for sedition. I asked if there would be further remand and the indication was there was no such indication.
Upon hearing that I then stopped my work. I had finished some research and completed the Notice of Appeal when the phone call came. The preparations for the appeal against remand can be put on hold but only for the time being - at least i could take a breather until 9am tomorrow morning.
The time is 2219hrs 4th June 2008. I shall now leave the office for home and prepare to appear for Gopalan Nair tomorrow morning. We hope for all the best for Gopalan Nair.
June 4, 2008 Posted by chiatilik2.Looks more serious than he thinks and we think:
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/
SEDITION ACT
(CHAPTER 290)
''Offences.
4. —(1) Any person who —- (a)
does or attempts to do, or makes any
preparation to do, or conspires with any person to do, any act which
has or which would, if done, have a seditious tendency;
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utters any seditious words;
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prints, publishes, sells, offers for
sale, distributes or reproduces any seditious publication; or
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imports any seditious publication,
shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction for a first offence to a fine not exceeding $5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or to both, and, for a subsequent offence, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years; and any seditious publication found in the possession of that person or used in evidence at his trial shall be forfeited and may be destroyed or otherwise disposed of as the court directs.
Legal proceedings.
5. —(1) No prosecution for an offence under section 4 shall be begun except within 6 months after the offence is committed:''end of quoteDoes it mean only the blogs he posted in the past 6 months
will be considered by court?
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Originally posted by eagle:
No la... not as bad as Gazelle, or rather, Gollum.
He's just a government mouthpiece, he will say good things about the government with no objectivity.There isn't a single policy from the government that he disagrees with, it's like P4P is the perfect government.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
That is why, people like francis seow is in US lecturing and saying bad about PAP here, if the Singapore dare to take him on US soil, i think PAP will be badly beaten due to freedom of speech and jury system.i think if someone said bad thing about a good government ,ppl will think he is mad,and ignore that,so is it everywhere else in the world practice samething here,or government afraid of the guy's speech ,spark anything or atomosphere against the government.Anyway if the speech does not convince the majority ,there is no need to worry,u can just take that as a dog barking,no one will reasonblely charge that
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who deface Nair blog?
FYI,He was just released 11.15am today.
http://www.singaporedissident.blogspot.com/
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2.A shame to SG news system.
International media faster than SG local media in local news!!
''Gopalan Nair, a former Singapore lawyer who is now a US citizen leaves the Subordinate court after he was bail out in Singapore on June 5. Nair, 58, a California-based blogger who allegedly accused a judge of "prostituting herself" is on 5,000 dollars (3,660 US) bail in Singapore.''
photo by Roslan Rahman
http://www.france24.com/en/20080605-us-blogger-released-bail-singapore
Thursday, June 5, 2008 - 09:00(lion note:this may be Europe time.
Nair stepped out from court at 11.15am SG time Thurs)
AFP News Briefs List
US blogger released on bail in SingaporeA US-based blogger who allegedly accused a Singapore judge of "prostituting herself" was released on bail Thursday and had his passport confiscated.
A judge ordered Gopalan Nair, a former Singapore lawyer who is now a US citizen, to be released on 5,000 dollars bail (3,676 US) after more than four days in custody.
A prosecutor told court there was no need for him to be detained while further investigations were carried out.
Nair, 58, who declined comment to reporters, is due back in court for another hearing next Thursday.
He was arrested in the city-state on Saturday and charged Monday with insulting a public servant, his lawyer Chia Ti Lik earlier told AFP.
According to a court document, Nair is charged with insulting Justice Belinda Ang Saw Ean last week by sending an email which said she "was throughout prostituting herself during the entire proceedings, by being nothing more than an employee of Mr Lee Kuan Yew and his son and carrying out their orders".
Chia said the comments essentially repeated those Nair made in a recent blog about a defamation case filed by Singapore's leaders against an opposition party and its members.(lion note:does Chia mean anyone can say anything
in his /her blogs and not liable?)
In the blog, Nair strongly criticised a three-day legal hearing last week at which Singapore founding father Lee Kuan Yew and his son, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, testified.
In another post on his blog Saturday, Nair taunted authorities, saying he was in Singapore at a particular hotel, and also gave his phone number.
"I am now within your jurisdiction... What are you going to do about it?" Nair wrote.
He is charged with insulting a public servant, which on conviction carries a maximum fine of 5,000 dollars (3,660 US) or one year in prison.
Nair's lawyer told reporters outside court that he expects a fresh charge to be laid against his client, without elaborating.
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3.Really brave man but forget Sedition Act is still in force
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2007_12_01_archive.html
Sunday, December 30, 2007
Democratic action in Singapore
This is the sad situation in Singapore whether you like it or not. Lee Kuan Yew has got you in a vice from which there is no escape. If you do nothing, you are doomed to spend the rest of your lives, waiting for the handouts that Lee will throw at you, if he pleases, while he and his friends in government will continue to steal millions of dollars of your money. Yes, your money.
This is what you can do. Keep in mind that any action you take has a cumulative effect. A positive multiplier effect. Even the distribution of one leaflet to one individual is enough. The receiver will repeat the message to others, and in degrees, at least sections of the population becomes emboldened.
There is no need to do any political activity through any political party; if that is what you prefer. On the one hand, you can do it through political parties like the Singapore Democratic Party. Political activism through political parties is of course preferred. But it is not a requirement. On the other hand, you can do it alone or among friends, if you prefer. As and when and where you like it.
One method is to print sufficient leaflets to distribute at busy places. The leaflets can encourage the people to protest. You can mention matters such as the unacceptably high salaries or theft being committed against the people by the ministers. You can mention the lack of a free press. The demand to be able to assemble. The demand for an independent judiciary. The leaflets can refer to the Singapore Democratic Party and their contact particulars. It can also request volunteers to distribute them at other places. Hopefully this way, Singapore island will be inundated with leaflets. And if you persist in this, you may well be able to move things. But regardless of whether you move things forward immediately, your actions alone would have made some dent in the illegal edifice of the Lee Administration. Also while distributing leaflets, you can wear a placard or poster over you body with the words "Down with Lee Kuan Yew" or "More Freedom Now" or any other catchy phrase you prefer and with a cry "Freedom now" etc.
And mind you, according to the Penal Code of Singapore distribution of leaflets is not illegal.
Another thing that is good is to get your friends together wearing the same T Shirts of similar color with a catchy slogan such as "Freedom now" and march long Orchard Road. While marching, you can also distribute leaflets.
Important thing to remember is to constantly inform others of what you have heard such as by sending out these messages of mine to others, Emailing others, and constantly spreading the news of your agitation.
As for distributing leaflets and holding marches and other political activity, I suggest you do not publicise it before the activity. Any publicity of it will attract undercover police to harass you and disrupt your activity. Get a cameraman there while you are involved in the activity. After the activity, post it on the Internet as a video or in pictures, preferably on Dr. Chee's web page Singapore Democrat. This way others will know what you have done; they will hopefully be emboldened and do the same just as you did. The idea is to get more and more involved in some sort of political protest. This will bring about change.
I understand that the government cannot block the Internet in Singapore. They have tried and failed. Whether they like it or not, they have to accept the overwhelming criticism against them on the Internet. With more and more Singaporeans becoming Internet savvy, they are unable to stop the hatred against them on the Internet spreading.
Remember, now it a situation of them and us. Them, being the moneyed millionaires who are Lee Kuan Yew and his chosen friends in government. They take millions of dollars. They are the only ones happy with this dictatorial regime. Then there is us. That is, the overwhelming majority of Singaporeans like you, who are not millionaires, and can never hope to be. You live at the pleasure of Lee Kuan Yew. And you will starve, if Lee Kuan Yew wishes it. Many of you are nearly in that position now. And without any rights.
Now the ground is ripe for change. The people of Singapore hate this dreaded government. If you act now, you will succeed.
Thanks for reading.
Gopalan Nair
39737 Paseo Padre Parkway, Suite A1
Fremont, CA 94538, USA
Tel: 510 657 6107
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
I believe it is you who give the impression that Singapore is rubbish and her people are unable to demostrate critical thinking of any sort by constantly making rubbish posts to smear australia and other nations as well as creating CLONES to talk to yourself when you failed to convince anyone of so.
You are the one who is making us look bad.
the brave happy slave thinks we're all slaves like him/her
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Originally posted by angel7030:
if he blog the same thing in US, he can be sue under US courts, which is a different set of laws altogether, but whether he can gets punished or not depend on the sentences(verdict) there.
Why different laws exist for diff countries?you mean in the USA, his kind of act is not deemed as serious as it is in the pore which has another set of law?
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Originally posted by rokkie:
another problem is ,he is us citizen,he blog some inappropriate content,but can sg law regulate him?
Is rokkie = lionoisy answering himself or using a nick to send across his message?I guess guess onlys.
some laughed at GN and jeered at his stewpigity.
The pic posted here of him walking out of the court with a laugh in his face.
Wow, USA citizen so big shot get diff treatment or not you guys think?
I think the law is BLIND as suggested by lion and it treats everyone EQUALLY regardless.
i no no what to say liao.
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
He was released on bail for $5K and passport impounded.
can anyone tell me when and where the case will be mentioned?
Could you ask your fav channer CNA why they nebber yet release the news about his out on bail?I tot many in asia as viewers of CNA would be interest, as in public interest?
i like to think that CNA is an independent media and capable of reporting news early.
Alas! AFP was faster.
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1.Do SDP guys know better than Gopalan Nair's lawyer?
http://chiatilik.wordpress.com/
chia ti lik cant give the section of Sedition charge.
How come SDP guys can say so sure under Section 4(1)
of the Sedition Act?What happen? pl read
http://www.yoursdp.org/
2.What would u say to Mr Gopalan Nair if u meet him?
http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/
