Originally posted by maurizio13:
If it was me, I would have long migrated to Australia or US as a political asylum seeker. It would have been more beneficial for me and my family. Why stay in Singapore to continue to be persecuted by a distorted system?
at least those now living in australia aren't labelled as losers.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
If it was me, I would have long migrated to Australia or US as a political asylum seeker. It would have been more beneficial for me and my family. Why stay in Singapore to continue to be persecuted by a distorted system?
He can just walk away, does not need to seek political asylum. If i were him, I would have long concentrated on getting ground votes and getting myself employed. Why plead "I have 3 young children to take care of" when he spends most of the time getting into trouble ? Truth to be told, I would laugh at that statement. He knows he is in for shit when he did what he did. He makes that plea and releases a recording claiming LKY sniggered ? who wouldn't ?
Originally posted by deathmaster:
at least those now living in australia aren't labelled as losers.
Without the political discrimination, being a PhD graduate, he would be able to lead a more fruitful life in Australia.
Kinda ironic, if that happens and he makes political comments about Singapore, he will be discredited by LKY saying that he is not a Singapore citizen and should not participate in Singapore politics. But when he is Singapore citizen participating in opposition politics, he was persecuted to the extremes. A Catch-22 scenario, every which way but lose.
The issue is with the authoritarian and oppressive nature of the PAP regime.
The issue is not Chee Soon Juan.
Don't be confused or distracted by propaganda or disinformation.
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Originally posted by kramnave:He can just walk away, does not need to seek political asylum. If i were him, I would have long concentrated on getting ground votes and getting myself employed. Why plead "I have 3 young children to take care of" when he spends most of the time getting into trouble ? Truth to be told, I would laugh at that statement. He knows he is in for shit when he did what he did. He makes that plea and releases a recording claiming LKY sniggered ? who wouldn't ?
Yes it would have been easier to just walk away to think about his self interest if one was selfish. Why didn't he just walk away? I would have emigrated, walking away, staying in Singapore would mean he is still a bankrupt, it's not a clean slate.
I think you have misunderstood, he didn't claim that LKY sniggered, it was me that heard CSJ's 5 recordings and the snigger at the mention of his plight. Throughout some parts of the recording, there wasn't even any chance for CSJ to pose any question. He would be struck down by the Judge and Plaintiff's lawyer before he even got to half of his question.
In all fairness, if you are a judge presiding in a civil case, can you strike off the defendant without the plaintiff raising an objection? I could have sworn in some of the questioning, before the question was even posed, the presiding judge struck him down even without the prosecution raising an objection.
Who is CSJ ? I don't know him.
But I know who is LKY and his son LHL. And I don't like their arrogant and heavy handed ways.
This is no way to deal with an opposition.
I think the SDP website where the recordings are located might be blocked or down.
I am having difficulty accessing the site now.
Resolved, the website is alright now.
what do the Lee family do with the defamation paid out ?
can anyone provide a reliable info?
Originally posted by reyes:what do the Lee family do with the defamation paid out ?
can anyone provide a reliable info?
There isn't any pay out, CSJ has no funds to pay the old man, that's why CSJ is a bankrupt.
Whatever payout that was awarded, it goes into extending CSJ's bankruptcy time.
a sniggering fool at a time when his wife was at the intensive care unit and he has first hand glimpse at his own future?
another less than human sniggering thing....
maybe he did giggle a little, I wouldn't go so far as to call it a snigger. He did have a little irritation in his nose, maybe that's what caused the "snigger". :)
Originally posted by maurizio13:
I didn't call you a lapdog, you called yourself one.I just admire you kind of devotion, don't you know dogs are one of the most faithful creatures. Your admiration and devotion is exceptional surpassing the loyalty of dogs.
And your shamelessness would make calling you a dog an insult to the real canines. Go back to school from the start to brush up your language skills, won't you?
i didn't hear the snigger
and even if he did snigger
it is an interpretation that he was sniggering at the innocent children
i can interpret it as a snigger at CSJ, telling him that "if u don't want to be a bankrupt because u hv 3 children, then dun do all these stupid things to oppose me"
that can be an interpretation also right?
hermeneutics is subjective
For your second lame attempt to absolve him, if you hear the recording, it's hardly irrelevant, as he was just elaborating his plight to LKY showing the courts how evil he was.
Lets get tis straight... the case is about him slandering LKY and instead of defending himself by claiming he did not slander, he tell people how evil LKY is. And u say tat is relevant ?
I think the joke is, his statement had confessed he did slander LKY, and he did it for personal reason. (Because he is an evil person and his kids r having a tough time because of it)
Originally posted by maurizio13:
Hypothetically if Sichuan was an opposition area, there after the Sichuan Earthquake. It's equivalent to Wen JiaBao standing over the victims and the dead, sniggering over their demise.It's extremely unbecoming of a Leader to do this.
CSJ's children are innocent parties, they are suffering and the old bastard laughs at their plight.
What kind of a fucking bastard does that?
he's just sniggering over the fact that someone that dun bother to be a good father and provide his children with the best .... and is more interested to travel around the world especially to US to tell the whole world how his children is suffering becos of some old man...........
Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):he's just sniggering over the fact that someone that dun bother to be a good father and provide his children with the best .... and is more interested to travel around the world especially to US to tell the whole world how his children is suffering becos of some old man...........
A bankrupt can travel around the world meh ?
/me sniggering.....
...did Dr Chee Soon Juan have a right to do what he did, to be an opposition? Yes it is in the constituition... it is in the pledge, "to build a democratic society" and how did he end up in jail over and over again trying "to build a democratic society"?
...yes a shameful willy fox, dishonorable to the hilt, setup the system to prevent him from doing it!!!!
...and then snigger at Dr Chee suffering from the traps that he had set for the opposition.
...and yup, he is less than human for sniggering at victims of his shananingans...
the way his son put it was: "fixing of the opposition" and now we know what his father taught him, "son, not just fix, you must snigger..."
Originally posted by Kuali Baba:And your shamelessness would make calling you a dog an insult to the real canines. Go back to school from the start to brush up your language skills, won't you?
I just commented on your loyalty and you feel insulted.
You know why you feel insulted?
It's because you are one.
The truth hurts doesn't it?
Originally posted by maurizio13:
I just commented on your loyalty and you feel insulted.You know why you feel insulted?
It's because you are one.
The truth hurts doesn't it?
I have no loyalties. What insult is there? You're the only one who's left looking stupid.
Originally posted by Kuali Baba:I have no loyalties. What insult is there? You're the only one who's left looking stupid.
After all those desparate lame attempts of absolving your master, you deny wagging your tail to his voice.
A stupid person is tons better than a loyal dog.
For someone who bases his political and worldy views on the social coversations in pubs after loads of booze with babes, you are really something else.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
After all those desparate lame attempts of absolving your master, you deny wagging your tail to his voice.A stupid person is tons better than a loyal dog.
For someone who bases his political and worldy views on the social coversations in pubs after loads of booze with babes, you are really something else.
Believe whatever you want to. Trying to use the jealousy card won't save your face.
Originally posted by Kuali Baba:Believe whatever you want to. Trying to use the jealousy card won't save your face.
What face is there to save cept yours? But essentially it's hard to differentiate your kind if they are from the same species.
A person who bases his evidence on conjectures instead of facts.
Originally posted by maurizio13:
What face is there to save cept yours? But essentially it's hard to differentiate your kind if they are from the same species.A person who bases his evidence on conjectures instead of facts.
You're just deperate now. Besides, when you worship the cowboy so much, anything different will seem like blasphemy.