Singapore has High Human Development (Rank 25) Index
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Pop simi champagne. Buay pai seh ah ?
Ranked 25th want to celebrate.. , siao !
Rank top 10 then celebrate !!
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Could it be due to the fact there is a disparity between what we are told in the mainstream media and what they want us to believe and the actual state of affairs.
No matter how you cut it, you can't say much about being 25...
You consider UNDP report as mainstream? -
so what does high development means?people are less f up??i dun tink so.propaganda BS. as for people who submit to pap to a t. ask yourselves this 2 qns..are u blind to not see how the common people suffer?
2nd qn, can your dick touch your ass..if yes, y dun u and the pap go fuc.k yourselves
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means we have good workers only mah. Means easy to exploit loh
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It's still good,because we qualify under United States' Visa Waiver Program
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Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
You consider UNDP report as mainstream?Mainstream or not you consider being behind Australia and Hong Kong as acceptable?
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
so what does high development means?people are less f up??i dun tink so.propaganda BS. as for people who submit to pap to a t. ask yourselves this 2 qns..are u blind to not see how the common people suffer?
2nd qn, can your dick touch your ass..if yes, y dun u and the pap go fuc.k yourselves
Facts by UN are propaganda to you. Infact, i believe any facts that disagrees with you is all BS. period!ans1. What is suffer? No money for food or no money to pay petrol for the WRX 2.0. IF it is the former, help them to go to CDC, they may not know. IF it is the latter, hey, hell, you pay your price, no way am i gonna subsidize your sports car!
ans2. If you want to resort to vulgarities like a hooligan or schoolboy, then there is no need to reply even an inch more to your stupidity.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
Facts by UN are propaganda to you. Infact, i believe any facts that disagrees with you is all BS. period!This must be the !% inspired understatement of the Year coming from the 'dearHunter' after making it with 99% perspiration.
Your wider audience will surely agree with your position - as they must have seen also "that any facts that disagrees with you" will promptly receive your very intelligent opinion that all are lies, half-truths, twisted replies.
Is the kettle blacker then your pot ?
ans1. What is suffer? No money for food or no money to pay petrol for the WRX 2.0. IF it is the former, help them to go to CDC, they may not know. IF it is the latter, hey, hell, you pay your price, no way am i gonna subsidize your sports car!
Only the brilliance of the 'dearHunter' will have us believe that the tax imposed on the petrol - causing the domestic petrol sales price to rise by 25% - is a subsidy from the government.
If your explanation of "tax and subsidy" for the Singapore situation is true - what were the Malaysian, Indonesian and Indian Governments doing - forcing their petrol or fuel selling price to be as low as possible, by giving money to the oil companies to fix the price lower ?
Now that the money subsidy is removed from the oil companies in Malaysia, Indonesia and India - petrol prices has risen without the subsidy.
ans2. If you want to resort to vulgarities like a hooligan or schoolboy, then there is no need to reply even an inch more to your stupidity.
Hypocrisy seems to flow from the dearHunter in the same volumous ways as the garbage that flow from his 1% inspired thoughts, and stink from the 99% perspiration.
Have you conveniently forgotten your vulgarities and juvenile hooliganism in your ranting reply to robbertteh ?
With your 1% inspired stupidity, can we hope for any sensible discussion with your 99% perspiration in juvenile expertise in your insults, scathing dishonesty, and patronising statements ?
Clearly when you are lost for your words, all you can resort to is your vile retort mixed with frustrated vulgarities.
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Singapore (Rank 79) Has Poor Quality of Life Index
Singapore has High Human Development (Rank 25) Index
I just think that it doesn't make sense to isolate one result and ignore the bigger picture.
If I put the 2 index together does it means that SG is a Highly Skill Slaves
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haveu all noticed that this debate of Quality of life vs human development Index is indeed flawed?
If u noticed higher quality of life = higher human development index. And Australia ranks 3rd in the world.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Mainstream or not you consider being behind Australia and Hong Kong as acceptable?
Australia and Hong Kong have a longer history than us and there is really no shortcut to human development, hence why should it be not acceptable? Beside that, Singapore is also ahead of Australia and Hong Kong is some other area what. e.g life expectancy, crime rate etc. -
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Australia and Hong Kong have a longer history than us and there is really no shortcut to human development, hence why should it be not acceptable? Beside that, Singapore is also ahead of Australia and Hong Kong is some other area what. e.g life expectancy, crime rate etc.Is is about history or the way things are run?
What about the other countries with more history then us but lower on the ranking?
A longer, or shorter history is not a valid excuse.
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Is is about history or the way things are run?
What about the other countries with more history then us but lower on the ranking?
A longer, or shorter history is not a valid excuse.
If so, I am sure you name me a country that is ranked higher than Singapore but have a shorter history right? -
The point is, the length of history is not the only thing to consider, nor is it a very good excuse given a certain someone predicted "swiss" standards of living some time back.
Is this due to "lack of history" or simply being outclassed?
More importantly, is our current dismal 25th ranking an indication of an "everything that has been done has been done", optimal situtation or could much more be done to improve the ranking?
More telling is our dismal rating for quality of life, now I seriously doubt that is the result of lack of history.
AFAIK, for our country that has been trying to claim No.1s in many things like airline and the like, being only the 25th in development after years of claiming "stunning" growth is nothing to be taken lightly.
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Also given your logic, we are better off being developed by the British like Hong Kong instead of arguing for independence...
Hmm...
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
The point is, the length of history is not the only thing to consider, nor is it a very good excuse given a certain someone predicted "swiss" standards of living some time back.
Is this due to "lack of history" or simply being outclassed?
More importantly, is our current dismal 25th ranking an indication of an "everything that has been done has been done", optimal situtation or could much more be done to improve the ranking?
More telling is our dismal rating for quality of life, now I seriously doubt that is the result of lack of history.
AFAIK, for our country that has been trying to claim No.1s in many things like airline and the like, being only the 25th in development after years of claiming "stunning" growth is nothing to be taken lightly.
Human development is not something which you cant change overnight. it has got alot to do with education and cultural change. Singapore is only 45 years old, hence how can you expect Singapore to be among the top 10 when the first generation of Singaporeans, who are uneducated farmers, fishermen, coolie, hokkien peng, mat-rockers, growing up shitting in holes dug in the ground, are still alive? -
Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
Also given your logic, we are better off being developed by the British like Hong Kong instead of arguing for independence...
Hmm...
I am only suggesting that history has got a big part to play in HDI, not suggesting weather Singapore will be better of under the British. I have asked you to show me a country that is ranked above us and with similar or shorter history.If you cant, then how can you say that history doesnt play a major role in HDI?
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The HDI provides a composite measure of three dimensions of human development: living a long and healthy life (measured by life expectancy), being educated (measured by adult literacy and enrolment at the primary, secondary and tertiary level) and having a decent standard of living (measured by purchasing power parity, PPP, income). The index is not in any sense a comprehensive measure of human development. It does not, for example, include important indicators such as gender or income inequality and more difficult to measure indicators like respect for human rights and political freedoms. What it does provide is a broadened prism for viewing human progress and the complex relationship between income and well-being
OkRaw data now
HDI value - 25. Singapore (0.922)
Life expectancy at birth (years)- 14. Singapore (79.4)
Adult literacy rate (% ages 15 and older) - 47. Singapore (92.5) - oh wow the Palestinian Occupied territories is actually 92.4 below us .....OH YEAH we are so educated when Thailand and Philipines is ranked above us.
Combined primary, secondary and tertiary gross enrolment ratio (%) -37. Singapore (87.3) - between Brazil (upper) and Poland (lower)
GDP per capita- (PPP US$) - 19. Singapore (29,663)
Human Poverty Index (HPI-1) 2004- 102. Singapore (5.2) - wow Cuba is just below us and the Palestinian Occupied Territories are just 2 above us . I am so impressed
Probability of not surviving past age 40 (%) -2004 -169. Singapore (1.8) not too shabby
Adult illiteracy rate -(%ages 15 and older) -2004- still in between Palestinian Occupied Territories . Even philipines and thailand have a lower level than Singapore
Children underweight for age (% ages 0-5) -2004 - 125. Singapore (3) - between Turkey and Romania (which just came out of communist rule not too long ago.)
The icing on the cake :The HPI-1 value of 5.2 for Singapore, ranks 7th among 108 developing countries for which the index has been calculated. - Could someone explain to me why we are being compared to Developing Countries when there are so much claims about how Singapore is a first world country . The HPI-1 value of 6.6 for Occupied Palestinian Territories, ranks 9th among 108 developing countries for which the index has been calculated and it is in middle development category. - urm how come we are ranked below an occupied territory just by 2 ranks? The HPI-1 value of 4.7 for Cuba, ranks 6th among 108 developing countries for which the index has been calculated.. I am seriously so impressed................
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The TS is not doing Singapore any favor by posting the link to the data. I was thinking how cool it would be to be compared to developed nations. After I saw it ,, it was kind of demoralising . Even Romania is below Singapore in terms of underweight children and ffs it is not a rich country - they came out of communism . Palestinian Occupied territories just miss us by a 1% margin in literacy and they are the ones with fighting and bombings going on . What is Cuba doing near Singapore's ranking? It is a poor country ( even my mexican friends tell me that it is really sad there)
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Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Human development is not something which you cant change overnight. it has got alot to do with education and cultural change. Singapore is only 45 years old, hence how can you expect Singapore to be among the top 10 when the first generation of Singaporeans, who are uneducated farmers, fishermen, coolie, hokkien peng, mat-rockers, growing up shitting in holes dug in the ground, are still alive?Yes I agree. These people you so mentioned are still alive and running the country.
So, in that sense it is true.. cannot improve very much. Thank you.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Yes I agree. These people you so mentioned are still alive and running the country.
So, in that sense it is true.. cannot improve very much. Thank you.
Any leader in this world is more capable than BUSH. Do you agree? -
Originally posted by £ Ĭ €Ú°:
Any leader in this world is more capable than BUSH. Do you agree?Yes , that I agree. Good thing President can only run 2 terms max.
Unlike our SG politic.. can run until lao kok kok.
Almost dying still don't want to let go.
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Originally posted by fymk:
The TS is not doing Singapore any favor by posting the link to the data. I was thinking how cool it would be to be compared to developed nations. After I saw it ,, it was kind of demoralising . Even Romania is below Singapore in terms of underweight children and ffs it is not a rich country - they came out of communism . Palestinian Occupied territories just miss us by a 1% margin in literacy and they are the ones with fighting and bombings going on . What is Cuba doing near Singapore's ranking? It is a poor country ( even my mexican friends tell me that it is really sad there)
If you are so concerned, then i think you better work harder to make Singapore a better place and not depend on others to feed and babysit you.
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
If you are so concerned, then i think you better work harder to make Singapore a better place and not depend on others to feed and babysit you.
Urm , I am working overseas. AUD has better currency value coupled with a reasonable quality of life. I do actually pay taxes to the Australian Government so that they can feed and babysit me later in the future.
My CPF is in Singapore generating money as a part of the pool of investment money for the Singaporean government .
I would think that I am a productive citizen. But if you say so :) .
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Originally posted by DeerHunter:
If you are so concerned, then i think you better work harder to make Singapore a better place and not depend on others to feed and babysit you.
I would differ in views with you. Is it not true now that most singaporeans are working hard? I would say that they are working hard. But the government are taking our money through increased GST, and less subsidy and also increasing the fees of public transport, which is supposed to cater to the less rich citizens? We are very concerned that the price of many daily things will increase again. We are not waiting for people to feed and babysit us. We just ask that the government will not increase the prices so much to breaking point. Do you disagree that we are trying to make our country a better place already? The only thing people worry about nowadays, is increase in prices. And the raise of the government's salary increased soon after the GST increase to 7%. Do you really blame them for being suspicious and more disatisfied with the government?
We in singapore are not waiting for anyone to babysit us. Unlike other countries, where the government gives money to people who are not working, it is not like that in singapore. So, I don't believe that babysitting can be used to describe.