Taxi Ridership sinking
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http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/pdf/20091113/fewertakingtaxis.pdf
See this .... summed it all up .
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knnbccb Straits Times ....
ST should have done a survey to why ridership was down , and when , what , which , who that caused it .
When caused ? Since August
What matter caused ? Peak hour lor ....
Which time caused ? Peak hour lor , after peak no problems .
Who caused ? fucking Comfort who implemented the 35% lor ...
Why reason caused ? Expensive ma 35% ....
C/c : ST , Comfort , LTA
b/c : Mr Dxxxx Xxx , the LTA's puppet
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it is A Grade Ok condemning LTA , Comfort for the fare structures , i do it for a good cause .
They do something good , will get good praise from us .
They do something no good to us , expect some bashings from us .
2009 liao ....
Time has changed ....
Days are gone that some people can control the Freedom of Speech in Sgp .
This forum is about responsibilties .... This forum is about Freedom of Speech .
This forum is about Voicing what is right , what is wrong , and what is suppose to be done , in the right way .
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This forum is no good for those kia si .....
Go back to your own forum .
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bro ,
this one have to strongluy disagree with u liao. 35 % peak hour should stay la. come on u want it to revert to last time? $1 peak? nothing else? city charge $1 ? this kinda fare structure i dont think u can be home by 12 am.... maybe drive till next morning.
Maybe im lucky to be with comfort , thats why my peak hour nap nap kali pok one. calls from pandan , tuas , paya lebar , science park , loyang help my peak hr alot. without all these calls , really dont know how to run liao.
i remember last time during the old rate , where will be home at 12 or 1 am? mostly gotta tong till 3 or 4 am.
My conlusion is : peak hour poor? then drive comfort. if LTA revert back to the old fare structure , U , me and everyone else will have to work more for less $, u wan that ah?
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Were u the one to tell me peak hour $40 that night ?
How often u want it to be like that day ?
Taxi are not supposed to be earning just $40 in 3 hours .
Something must be causing it , why ?
If i can get $100 with $1 peak hour , and $70 with 35% peak hoiur surcharge , pls go back with $1 peak hour surcharge .
Now i am not saying i wany $1 to come back , i want a balance .....
Just 20% ....
What is Comfort's motives of 35% ?
For drivers ?
No , to push taxi goers back to their buses and mrt ....clear cut .
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Taxi fares too expensive now, somemore economy not good now.
Though fares are higher now, but more cabbies spend time waiting instead of doing some productive work, it's a waste of manpower resources.
But who am I to voice my dissatisfaction, I am not a scholar like those Ministers.
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eh that $40 was a once in a blue moon thing , if u look at my other posting , i posted my rough peak hour earnings.
$1 peak hour surcharge will probably benefit u guys without bookings , but to us , its a different thing altogether.
Today i got a booking from edelweiss park to trader's hotel , fare was $34.50. and that booking was at 7 pm . are u able to get 34.50 based on the old rate? u drive from west to east and back to west ... maybe.
what im trying to say is i support this new fare structure simply becos we make lesser trips for the same amount of money. with $1 , you have to drive like mad. maybe now u are young , so can pia , i old liao , i need the 35% hehehe
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Pls think of the bigger picture ..... how if every taxi drivers drive for Comfort ?
Will u still get those calls ?
Then what happened ? Peak hour $40 again ?
Dun say today ..... today 1 call , me nap nap kali pok $330 . 4am reached home
Long run ..... ridership will still go down .
Next year , more Wish , more taxis than never before .
Action have to be taken to balance the supply and demand .
More car ownerships .... if not , where the jam came from ?
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And also ..... u have a modified MDT , u have those advantages over others who did not modify at all .
Without the modifications ...... will u still enjoy those advantages ?
U dun have rejects , if today's conditions , i bet many would have been suspended thru out the night .
U have a 2.5km perimeter , the rest just 1.5km .....
Ur advantages cannot justify the general cabbies' income .
Not many would say they would enjoy the 35% surcharge .
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u nap nap kali pok $330 then why u wanna make an issue out of the 35% leh? again i stress that making less trips with the same amt of money benefits taxi drivers as a whole. how many are young like u , can pick and go , pick and go ?
very often i see comfort cabs queuing long long at IMM or Strategy , all they can do is to drive a bit further into pandan and sure got ping sound! but why they dont do that? i still do not understand. ridership may be down but the onus is on us to go find more fares , drive deeper , hide longer. Like one of the cabby today say , just have to look harder la.
As for bigger picture , u and me are juz a pawn , we have no say in demand and supply , so why not look after ourselves first? and that is to have max fare for lesser effort.
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anyway , today i did a comparison with my friend transcab 206 . from 6 to 8 he was able to clock $71. i did from 530 to 8 $98 . that goes to show he is not that far off away from me. he also got no calls , purely street. hes the type that goes round and round and dont Q at cab stands. so how to say ridership is down?
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And also ..... u have a modified MDT , u have those advantages over others who did not modify at all .
Without the modifications ...... will u still enjoy those advantages ?
U dun have rejects , if today's conditions , i bet many would have been suspended thru out the night .
U have a 2.5km perimeter , the rest just 1.5km .....
Ur advantages cannot justify the general cabbies' income .
Not many would say they would enjoy the 35% surcharge .
Bro at the end of the day , the battle is juz ourselves . why stress out by caring abt the general cabby's income? at 1215 am , you see a pax in front waiting , another also see , do you think he will not challenge with u to try and pick the fare? do u think he will wave you by and let you pick?
its 613 liao bro , damn tired ,next time then argue la ... good nite
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like i say , dun say today , today is an exceptional case , plus rain .
Where id the stats came from , drop from august til October ?
Like i said , peak hour $44 , from 8pm to 12am $152 .... saw the diff ?
What if the surcharges adjusted from 35% to 20% ?
Balance ?
Commuters happy ? I am sure more will be more happy .
drivers happy ? I am so sure many will .
Now commuters not happy with 35% , drivers except you are happy ......
If those against the 35% p/hr surcharge taxi drivers & their taxis are to sent to sentosa island , sentosa will sink . hahahahahahaha
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I did from 5pm to 8pm $110 , champion , so what ? Friday $110 for me is sup sup water ? Does Friday solve those supply & demand issues and the ridership problems ? Not really .
The core issue here is what will happened when more people owns a car ?
And more taxis on the road next year ?
And more OMO covering their other shift's rental from 5pm to 8pm ?
With an adjustment , more taxis will be active , and less Q-ing at taxi stand .
I cannot understand since the market is liberalised , why did those taxi coys follows what Comfort implemented ?
Since they saw the problems now ? Why no actions from those smaller companies ?
I am so sure if Smart , TransCab , SilverCab re-adjust those fare structures , smrt & comfort will follow suit .
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wah lao eh lol u mai let me go to sleep is it?
lol bro , i also do street pick ups during peak hrs , where did u get the feedback that commuters are not happy? i for sure dont. intially when they revised the fare , one pax got a shock of her life , from tuas south to toh cres $54 , even i got a shock too coz i have never seen the meter like this before. but on the whole , commuters have accepted this liao la.
the 35% kills if its a long distance route, if its a short one , the difference is not that great.
ok if u say balance it up , fine 20% for peak and the main metre to be adjusted to jump quicker after 8 pm. seriously 8 pm till 2359 fares are too cheap. i picked a street from bayshore to clarke quay today.. no surcharge or anything , $10... thats really hard earned u know ? lol
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Originally posted by Poolman:
I did from 5pm to 8pm $110 , champion , so what ? Friday $110 for me is sup sup water ? Does Friday solve those supply & demand issues and the ridership problems ? Not really .
The core issue here is what will happened when more people owns a car ?
And more taxis on the road next year ?
And more OMO covering their other shift's rental from 5pm to 8pm ?
With an adjustment , more taxis will be active , and less Q-ing at taxi stand .
I cannot understand since the market is liberalised , why did those taxi coys follows what Comfort implemented ?
Since they saw the problems now ? Why no actions from those smaller companies ?
I am so sure if Smart , TransCab , SilverCab re-adjust those fare structures , smrt & comfort will follow suit .
Bro , why are u worrying and worrying? u earn enough ok liao mah. 110 is really power for peak hours. Like i say , we are neither taxi companies , hell we arent even a staff of comfort or transcab . let these people deal with the worrying la please. at the end of the day , u lum your $330 sio sio in your pocket and i lum mine ( not so much as u la lol ) ok liao lor.
As for more people owning cars , let me tell u it has nothing to do with expensive cab fares. it is to do with singaporean's aspirations. If fares were to be like the old rate , again the same problem arises , no TAXIS after 8 pm , all go and hide coz no city surcharge liao , wait for call. Wont this frustrate commuters into buying a car too?
Right now , you and me are sitting on different side of the fence. If i were now to drive transcab , i will probably lobby your cause . if you were to drive blue , u wont even wanna raise this up at all. tio bo?
so my take is fare cut or no fare cut , juz do our job , clock more clock less and juz go back to our own homes safe and sound ;)
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why if dun drive for comfort can die meh? Why no calls cannot make money meh? I drove for comfort for 7 years and do they say thank you to me ? The answer is NO. They are not plain stupid to get as much money from you. Do you know they make easy money from calls without sweating a sweat and also from cashless transaction. Do they give you commision to you if any of yr passengers used the above services . The answer is no. I agreed with Poolman that the 35 % surcharge is to push pax to public transport as they are not making enuff to answer to TEMASEK.
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Originally posted by benqepson:
why if dun drive for comfort can die meh? Why no calls cannot make money meh? I drove for comfort for 7 years and do they say thank you to me ? The answer is NO. They are not plain stupid to get as much money from you. Do you know they make easy money from calls without sweating a sweat and also from cashless transaction. Do they give you commision to you if any of yr passengers used the above services . The answer is no. I agreed with Poolman that the 35 % surcharge is to push pax to public transport as they are not making enuff to answer to TEMASEK.
hi , what makes u think transcab or whoever u are drivin for is going to thank you? the answer is no as well.
I have driven longer than you to know that yes they do make easy money from calls without sweating but did u know they also invest a lot on technology? comfort has one of the best tracking technology , if anything happens to u , they are able to dispatch help in double quick time. And if i were to kena a call thats $20 to $30 ... surely paying 50 cts is no big deal right?
The 35% is to compensate us for the peak hour jams , endless crawling traffic on the highway, i wonder why u all are complainin ? lol
If like KC bro suggest 20% , will the jams go away? will congestion ease? no it will still be there and worse part of all , u earn lesser , does not make sense at all la
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in reality, LTA's scholars wun even bother to find out the root of the problem.
They think by using stop gap measures like getting more MICE would work. Ivory tower illness
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Originally posted by Tio Call Liao:
wah lao eh lol u mai let me go to sleep is it?
lol bro , i also do street pick ups during peak hrs , where did u get the feedback that commuters are not happy? i for sure dont. intially when they revised the fare , one pax got a shock of her life , from tuas south to toh cres $54 , even i got a shock too coz i have never seen the meter like this before. but on the whole , commuters have accepted this liao la.
the 35% kills if its a long distance route, if its a short one , the difference is not that great.
ok if u say balance it up , fine 20% for peak and the main metre to be adjusted to jump quicker after 8 pm. seriously 8 pm till 2359 fares are too cheap. i picked a street from bayshore to clarke quay today.. no surcharge or anything , $10... thats really hard earned u know ? lol
I agreed with Tio Call Liao....Non peak hour is too cheap... not only 8 pm to 2359 but also during day time... Peak hour 35% got to stay as it is reasonable as traffic snarls, and how many job can you get...during this periods...Not everyday is Sunday
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Singaporean just have to get used to this fares.... Too pamper...always on the cheap.
If no peak hour surcharge-- You will see it revert to "Changing Shift Signs" as all want to pack up and be back home at 4 pm or 5 pm... Now you can see many hardworking TD on the road during peak hour...
It is not going to solve the problem without 35% surcharge and it will worsen taxi drivers earning...
Actually i believe some other drivers can be quite pathetic and earning maybe average $6 to $10 per hour nett after deducting cost.....Better work for McDonalds....Those on the $6 levels especially...Not to forget no welfare...cpf , proper lifestyle...No Life...
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Not everyone is as capable as Pool...driving and picking pax tactics...
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our transport minister, taxi adviser, LanTowAdministrators strategist and paper on the desk officials should drive a Taxi incognito without help for 4 weeks and get a taste of taxi driving lifeless job,, meagre earning...., haphzardous... and find out how good it is...
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With more empty taxis on the roads hunting for passengers it is non-productive.
It's like in the past, you produce 100 burgers and you earn total of $100, you are more productive, more customers derived benefits and the economy is more productive.
But now, you produce 10 burgers and you earn total of $200, you are less productive (cause most of the time your time hunting and waiting) yet you earn more than before (doesn't make sense does it), less customers derive benefits and the economy is less productive. Time spend hunting for passengers and waiting is wasted time (non productive).
More money to be made means no need to hand over shift? Can continue driving?
The reason why you see more empty taxis on the roads during peak is because it is too expensive and nobody is taking taxis. It does not necessarily mean that drivers don't handover shift and continue driving. There is evidence that not many people are taking taxis, you can see from the taxi queues forming at the airport and major shopping malls.