TOYOTA MARK X UPDATE 2 ( KIT FROM JAPAN)
2010 Toyota Mark X
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Originally posted by SBSTransport:
Well I do believe that the Mark X & IS250 share similar features infact if I have been on IS250 couple of times and I can't find any difference between the IS250 & Mark X features, still quality plays a part too I guess. Though I think $30k is abit too much if just for quality difference probably the badge too plays a part.
I really have no idea what is Toyota trying to do, cannibalising its own sales?
different markets i guess. mark x is jdm. lexus is for ang moh market. somemore, there are somethings that the lexus gs300 chassis has that the mark x is lacking. y gs300? cuz both the gs and x share the same chassis. only similarity between the is250 and x is the engine. thats where the similarity ends. -
Originally posted by Unknown_X:
idk. ask joean, she sounds like she knows alot about the mark x after surfing the local mark x forum. =)
I rather trust u.. You actually do drive a mark X
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Originally posted by Unknown_X:
different markets i guess. mark x is jdm. lexus is for ang moh market. somemore, there are somethings that the lexus gs300 chassis has that the mark x is lacking. y gs300? cuz both the gs and x share the same chassis. only similarity between the is250 and x is the engine. thats where the similarity ends.I don't believe that JDM Xs come without steering mounted controls, etc etc. I think that PIs import in the most basic model to keep costs down. But for 100+k, I would think that amenities like steering mounted controls would be spec-ed in, after all, the X is meant to be a mid level luxury car isn't it..
One good example would be this. The allions that we get are probably the lowest of the lowest spec.. The interior should look more like this
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THIS is what we get
http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/large_photo.php?L=&DC=1096&CC=74903&PN=3
Is it any surprise that car buyers in singapore get squeezed by all sides - the dealer and the govt.
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@ nightsky87: eh dont like that say, i'm just highlighting some small facts that's all, like having vsc and trc will eliminate fishtail. mark x is a rwd ffs, if pushed hard enough, it will still snap. no electronics can prevent fishtail (at least that's what i believe and understand). not here to put joean down or disrupt any sales. =) but of cuz, like she said, it's good to have such safety features cuz no one knows when it will save our life.
yup PIs bring in the basic models to keep costs down, but i know of mark x owners who actually got their PI to get the buttons installed for them. or they purchase the buttons online and go to their own preferred audio accessories shop to wire it up.
as for the 2010 mark x, im not sure about the steering mounted controls yet. yet to go down to showrooms to see one in the flesh yet. personally as a mark x owner, i still cannot accept the rear of the car. im a sucker for luxury cars and loving the interior, much more luxurious than the one that are on the roads now.
and ah... how come u know i own a mark x? hahahaha.
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its alright for me, forum is to share info and to exchange viewers.. not only for sales.. i do not know very well yet for the Mark x as mostly for cars guy will know more of it... and they have always do enough research before they make any decision, so i am still learning... I agreed with Unknown X as he is someone who knows alot abt Mark X as he is driving one...:)
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Mark X is one of my favourite car. As i know it is a good spects car. As for knowledge wise i may not be comparable to guys as they will do a deep in research before they go into any decision.. but i am sure if u have any question to know more about, this forum here will have someone to answer the questions that u are looking for as forum is to share and exchange views :)
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"Under increasing pressure to speed up design, increase quality, and reduce R&D costs, engineers, there Should be alot incomplete hardware prototypes and a design process .and a whole lot of port that look like that. Toyota Motor, the once-mighty money machine that grabbed the crown of world’s biggest automaker from General Motors last year, gave a shocking loss forecast today for a staggering $8.6 billion for this year. Culprits are aplenty, but one of them is the company’s mammoth size."
Why built new ones? , re-engineering and re-programming would be Cheaper.
Look at the re-engineering Toyota Vanguard 2.4 (168Hp/=) from the same engine use on the Estima Camry Harrier etc.
or at 2 version of Toyota Wish .
For Japan maket 2.0 L 3ZR-FAE dual VVT-i technology +Valvematic variable lift intake head(155 Hp) @ 6000 Rpm 7 Speed auto,
For Thailand and third world , Mmmmmm .Let just provide back the 2.0 L 1AZ-FE dual VVT-i technology (140 hp) at 6000 rpm 4 Speed auto .
BUT . . .AZ engine intro in 2000 , hmm , let use it for a next 7 year of Toyota Wish cycle , We still had a pile of 2.0 Camry 1AZ-FE and Wish 1AZ-FE in Thailand and Aust . . .
BRAND NEW TOYOTA WISH FOR YOUR TAKING, IT NEW.
More PI ,brought in brand like , BMW ,Audi ,Volkswagen and Ford, just to let you know. One Pi Even brought in the MINI John Cooper Works Cabriolet . Due the high Yen and OMV Japanese car are going to be very Expensive if Coe Keep going Up.
My Point is . . . Next year Mark X, Should be the Top selling automobile in Singapore but not as impressive when it was first launch year back.
Some customer today still had no idea such a great car from Toyota exist. a few time customer presume Mark X and Mark Zio due to the emblem logo , was from India or some new brand company due to the Cross emblem logo . . . . . . Hilariously once a CHINA guy (broker), came to my show last year with a Friend who a Singaporean was looking for Toyota Camry. The Singaporean glazes at the MARK X (old face lift) and ask if this car from some China Brand . . . and the China Broker told him is a call Reiz back home. He did most the sale talk , I just did the paper work
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sure be a top selling car! wah u so confident! gooda gooda! wanna have more mark x brothers on the road. customers are a funny bunch... got an X nia, they think its Indian car? no link leh. :S
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Wah if customer really thinks it Indian car than I must be really out of the world to think that it is a prototype Jaguar running around...when I first saw it. Though I do can understand why Toyota choose to put the X badge infront instead of its logo...
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IIRC, I think the Wish also got their own unique logo.. the Allion and Axio also.
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Originally posted by nightsky87:
IIRC, I think the Wish also got their own unique logo.. the Allion and Axio also.
yup, u got it right. one thing special about toyota cars is that they have logos for different models. the estima is another example. -
Originally posted by Unknown_X:
yup, u got it right. one thing special about toyota cars is that they have logos for different models. the estima is another example.LOL! See lah, after u said this, I went to purposely observe all the PI toyotas. Noticed that the Alphard also got their unique logo.
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yup. alot of other models also la. but i lazy to list all. LOL
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Originally posted by Unknown_X:
yup. alot of other models also la. but i lazy to list all. LOL
While looking for info for mark X and Camry , I come across this (Australasia) and you find out not that just the badge problem. . . Also rebadged. but not comfirm Singapore Camry from agent are also rebadged model too from Toyota Aurion (aust).
BEAUTY BUT I AM A BEAST
3.5 L 2GR-FZE supercharged V6 241 kW (323 hp) 400 N·m (300 lb·ft)
Holden VE Commodore (Australasia)
6.0 L (5,967 cc); V8 270 kW (360 hp) 530 N·m (390 ft·lbf
Pontiac G8 (Australasia)
6.2 L LS3 V8 (415 hp)
Ford Falcon FG
5.4 L BOSS 315 kW (428 hp) at 6,500rpm and 551Nm of torque at 4,750rpm
Some P.i , brought Some Toyota Camry (aust) to singapore Last year,
but it never be this beauty from (Australasia) .
The Camry sold in the South East Asia Now and China is essentially a rebadged version of Toyota Aurion (2006) sold in Australia.However, the interior is carried over from the USDM/JDM Camrys, with some difference.
In Malaysia, the 2.0 L models are available in two trim packages: the 2.0 E and 2.0 G. The 2.4 variant is also in Malaysia, utilizing the 2AZ-FE engine model. The output of this 2.4V model is 123 kW (167 PS; 165 hp) at 6000 rpmwith 224 N·m (165 lb·ft) of torque at 4000 rpmfrom the Toyota Camry LE V6 engine.that may in Thailand.
Source : http://en.wikipedia.org
Who know if one day if Thailand start produce the 2009 Toyota Aurion / Camry (Australasia) rebadged it again.
Borneo Motor may have a NEW FACELIFT Camry ,I would Love to see that kind of car in Singapore even it not the same engine.
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Mark X +M Super Charger
Mark X +M Super Charger Power output is 360ps and 50.8 kg-m
http://toyota.jp/customize/markx/supercharger/spec.html
http://toyota.jp/customize/markx/vertiga/index.html
http://toyota.jp/markx/dop/package/index2.html
Maybe Future Mark x Bodykit in Singapore will look Close or even better.let wait
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@deminic: dude, u gotta improve on your english. took me some time to understand what u r trying to say. =x
aurion in aus is different from the camry in aus. u get different stuff from the 2 cars, but they share the same platform. something like mark x and the lexus gs series. same platform, but different looks. of cuz, in the case of the aurion and camry, similar looks.
have seen some local camrys on the road with the aurion kit, fierce looking! im sure there are some camry club members here. let's see if they can give us more info about the aurion.
as for the mark x packages, is the supercharger even able to pass the lta emission test? from my understanding, the previous one like buay pass leh.
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Toyota Camry ( ACV40 )
Toyota Camry ( ACV40 ) (JDM Domestic) (USA) (Brought in by MOST P.Importer)
The facelifted Camry began production in January 2009 and went on sale in March 2009 in the United States.
Daihatsu Altis ( ACV40
2006 Toyota Camry Altise ( ACV40 ) ( Assembly Altona, Victoria, Australia )
(Brought in by Some P.Importer)
Toyota Aurion / Camry (GSV40R)
Toyota Aurion (GSV40R) ( Assembly Altona, Victoria, Australia )
The Camry-based Aurion is also sold in the majority of East and Southeast Asia as the Toyota Camry, with the original version of the Camry sold alongside the Aurion in Australasia and the Middle East.Toyota equips the Aurion exclusively with a 3.5 litre V6 engine. With the Camry, only the 2.4 litre four-cylinder model is offered. Toyota launched the Aurion in Australasia, where it competes with the rear-wheel drive Ford Falcon, Holden Commodore, and the front-wheel drive Mitsubishi 380.
( Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Aurion)
Toyota Camry (GSV40R) (Assembly Chachoengsao, Thailand) (2006)
Toyota Camry (GSV40R) (Assembly Chachoengsao, Thailand) ( 2009)
The powertrains Assembly in the Asian (Chachoengsao, Thailand)(Santa Rosa, Philippines) (Shah Alam, Malaysia)(Cikarang, Indonesia) (Guangzhou, China)
specification Camry vary slightly from those of the Aurion. As well as the 3.5 litre V6, two four-cylinder engines are offered in either 2.0 litre or a 2.4 litre form. These engines are mated with a six-, four- and five-speed automatic transmissions respectively,Toyota also manufactures and markets the Aurion in parts of East and Southeast Asia, where it is marketed under the Toyota Camry branding. This model gets a redesigned grille and are marketed under different trim levels to their Australasian counterparts.
Toyota Camry Hybrid (GSV40R)( ACV40 )
( Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry_(ACV40)
Sorry for the English . well i just fell toyota just spent to much time , doing the design over the year. and keep have Twin.with little different. some of the car i list below are not just by name diff ,but only just a little diff in bodykit or head light . . .
(Toyota Allion VS Premio)
Toyota VellFire VS Toyota Aplhard)
(Toyota Auris Vs Toyota Vizt )
(Toyota Matrix Vs Pontiac Vibev)
(Toyota Belta Vs Toyota Yaris)
(Toyota Noah vs Toyota roxy)
(Toyota Vanguard VS Toyota Kluger)
( Toyota Corolla Alti Vs Toyota Corolla Axio )Wrost of all
(Toyota Bb vs Toyota Corolla Rumion vs Scion xB Vs Daihatsu Materia Vs Subaru Dex)
ONLY MARK X IS STILL IS STILL SINGLE , just like SUPRA.hope it always been like that and live as a legend like the MARK II and Toyota Soarer z30 and the toyota chaser.
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Originally posted by Unknown_X:
@deminic: dude, u gotta improve on your english. took me some time to understand what u r trying to say. =x
aurion in aus is different from the camry in aus. u get different stuff from the 2 cars, but they share the same platform. something like mark x and the lexus gs series. same platform, but different looks. of cuz, in the case of the aurion and camry, similar looks.
have seen some local camrys on the road with the aurion kit, fierce looking! im sure there are some camry club members here. let's see if they can give us more info about the aurion.
as for the mark x packages, is the supercharger even able to pass the lta emission test? from my understanding, the previous one like buay pass leh.
I think the Mark X +M supercharged can pass LTA leh. Since is 'factory tuned', albeit by tuner, but still in-house. It's probably considered an 'official' variant of the X?
Compared to the Mugen Accord supercharged, that one sure not import-able..
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Originally posted by SBSTransport:
Well I do believe that the Mark X & IS250 share similar features infact if I have been on IS250 couple of times and I can't find any difference between the IS250 & Mark X features, still quality plays a part too I guess. Though I think $30k is abit too much if just for quality difference probably the badge too plays a part.
I really have no idea what is Toyota trying to do, cannibalising its own sales?
for toyota, all the same.whether lexus, daihatus, hino, scion,toyota....all is using the cost saving mindset.
but the L badge is for distinguishing the rich and poor buyer. so toyota still a toyota.
and "life with a toyota is NOT standard living" la. lol
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Originally posted by nightsky87:
I think the Mark X +M supercharged can pass LTA leh. Since is 'factory tuned', albeit by tuner, but still in-house. It's probably considered an 'official' variant of the X?
Compared to the Mugen Accord supercharged, that one sure not import-able..
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New Mark x!?,.. I got the news and rush down to trade in mine for the new model...BUT went down to view the car,.. disapointing.. as the last mark X is a surprising overhaul from past toyota mark series, we are expeting more from this batch..the look is less appearling especially the head lamp..icant appreciate the design.
However, its ONLY face lift and engine also less power. There were rumors about the Mark X will have a turbo model, and I will beg on that...but 7Tune has dimissed that news. :(
Ther interior... less aesthetics, in my opinion as compare to the current model. if you are in for mark X, in my own opion, go for the 2006 model.
However I am HAPPY!! cos dun need to change car and happy with current mark x ( 2006)
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Originally posted by BotakTowKay:
New Mark x!?,.. I got the news and rush down to trade in mine for the new model...BUT went down to view the car,.. disapointing.. as the last mark X is a surprising overhaul from past toyota mark series, we are expeting more from this batch..the look is less appearling especially the head lamp..icant appreciate the design.
However, its ONLY face lift and engine also less power. There were rumors about the Mark X will have a turbo model, and I will beg on that...but 7Tune has dimissed that news. :(
Ther interior... less aesthetics, in my opinion as compare to the current model. if you are in for mark X, in my own opion, go for the 2006 model.
However I am HAPPY!! cos dun need to change car and happy with current mark x ( 2006)
har? u seem to be someone i might know in the local mark x forums... considering your nick and all...
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Originally posted by Unknown_X:
previous supercharged mark x also 'factory tuned' but buay pass. how? lol.The previos generation 'X super charger' variant didn't pass the LTA inspections?
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Originally posted by nightsky87:
The previos generation 'X super charger' variant didn't pass the LTA inspections?
nope
